Episodes

A White Christian Nationalist Coup Long in the Making - with Dr. Kelly J. Baker
Jan. 11, 2021

A White Christian Nationalist Coup Long in the Making - with Dr. Kelly J. Baker

Dr. Kelly J. Baker, author of Gospel According to the Klan: The KKK’s Appeal to Protestant America, 1915-1930, stops by to discuss how the January 6 insurrection was long in the making. Using the 1920s Klan as a historical precedent, she and Brad discuss White supremacy in American culture and politics, the longstanding entanglement of White Protestantism and White nationalism, the Confederate legacy, the class dimensions of both the Klan and the coup, and what we can expect in the near future....
Weekly Roundup: Trump's Insurrection
Jan. 8, 2021

Weekly Roundup: Trump's Insurrection

Brad and Dan analyze the January 6 Insurrection at the United States Capitol.They begin by discussing the unprecedented aspects of the events.Then, a discussion of Christian nationalism and its manifestation through insurrectionists, the actions and rhetoric of Senator Josh Hawley, and the activism of Ginny Thomas--wife of Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas.After discussing the new conspiracy theory that antifa was behind the Insurrection, they turn to details surrounding the Capitol Po...
S1.Ep3 (Re-Release): The History of the Religious Right
Jan. 5, 2021

S1.Ep3 (Re-Release): The History of the Religious Right

What if I told you the Religious Right formed on the basis of racism and not abortion? What if segregation was the real issue and the unborn were used later to justify it? That's what we discover on this episode. Brad and Dan trace the history of the Religious Right from the 60s to the present. And then Brad interviews Dr. Randall Balmer, professor of religion at Dartmouth College and one of the world's leading scholars on American Evangelicalism.---Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm...
S1.Ep.2 (Re-release): 81% WTF
Dec. 29, 2020

S1.Ep.2 (Re-release): 81% WTF

Think of this as a SWAJ primer. We cover many of the major themes of the show in a relatively brief conversation.On our second ever episode, we put the White Evangelical support for Trump in historical perspective. Brad lays out the details on how more White Evangelicals supported him than Bush, McCain, or Romney. Dan then provides a sociological analysis as to how this happened.---Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/straightwhiteamericanjesu/messageSupport this podcast: https://an...
S1.Ep.1 (Re-Release): Why Straight White American Jesus?
Dec. 22, 2020

S1.Ep.1 (Re-Release): Why Straight White American Jesus?

After many requests, we begin the re-release of Season 1! On this first episode Brad and Dan introduce themselves and tell their stories of being evangelical youth group kids, ministers, and seminarians, and then leaving the movement. They also explain why it was necessary to start Straight White American Jesus. This is our origin story. Take a listen!---Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/straightwhiteamericanjesu/messageSupport this podcast: https://anchor.fm/straightwhiteamericanj...
Weekly Roundup: American Insurrection and Beth Moore's Anti-Christian Nationalism
Dec. 18, 2020

Weekly Roundup: American Insurrection and Beth Moore's Anti-Christian Nationalism

On the last Weekly Roundup of the year, Brad and Dan discuss: 1) the myth of the stolen election and how it has gained legitimacy through support from GOP leaders 2) comparing it to the lasting nature of the Birther controversy 3) examining the consequences of the myth, including the radicalization of a generation of White Americans, calls for implementing the Insurrection Act, and the development of a new Lost Cause (what Brad calls the Lost Pause).We finish the episode by examining Beth Moor...
Ken Kemp on White People Doing the Work
Dec. 15, 2020

Ken Kemp on White People Doing the Work

Ken Kemp is not the person you'd expect to be leading small groups and table talks helping White folks understand the histories of racism and strategies to combat it. He's a White male Boomer. Someone born into evangelical culture. A guy who went through seminary and was almost ordained twice. But late in life he had an awakening through visits to India, South Africa, and via friendships and events that woke him up to the racialized dimensions of White Evangelicalism. He shares his story with Br...
Weekly Roundup: Christian Privilege and Raced Religion
Dec. 4, 2020

Weekly Roundup: Christian Privilege and Raced Religion

Brad and Dan briefly touch on three stories: MAGA rebellion in Georgia, Obama on "Defund the Police," and the federal government's abandonment of the American people in the face of COVID.We then dig deeper into two stories about religion and politics:-the attacks on Raphael Warnock as part of a long history of White Evangelical castigation of Black faith and movements.-the Supreme Court's ruling that religious gatherings override COVID health measures---Send in a voice message: https:/...
Sophie Bjork-James on the Similarities Between White Nationalists and Christian Nationalists
Dec. 1, 2020

Sophie Bjork-James on the Similarities Between White Nationalists and Christian Nationalists

Dr. Sophie Bjork-James is an anthropologist at Vanderbilt University. She is a specialist in race, gender, and religion with a focus on White nationalism and White evangelicalism. One of her recent projects is a close reading of the Left Behind series and the Turner Diaries, the latter many consider the Bible of the White supremacy movement. Reading these two texts together reveals the stunning similarities in White nationalism and Christian nationalism, including their belief that violence is j...
Anne Nelson on the Shadow Network Behind Trump's Coup, ACB's nomination, and the Coming Cold Civil War
Nov. 24, 2020

Anne Nelson on the Shadow Network Behind Trump's Coup, ACB's nomination, and the Coming Cold Civil War

Brad speaks with journalist Anne Nelson whose book Shadow Network: Media, Money, and the Secret Hub of the Radical Right outlines in vivid detail the network of organizations, media empires, and churches that sync the Radical Right. She explains how groups such as the NRA, Susan B. Anthony List, and Family Research Council are all interwoven into a nexus that both helped create the presidency of Donald Trump and will continue the takeover of the United States even after he's gone. For example, t...
Weekly Roundup: Frederick Douglass on a Divided Nation, Whose Faith Counts as Really American?, and American Exceptionalism in Religious Terms
Nov. 20, 2020

Weekly Roundup: Frederick Douglass on a Divided Nation, Whose Faith Counts as Really American?, and American Exceptionalism in Religious Terms

Brad and Dan begin by drawing on a famous speech by Frederick Douglass in order to put the nail in the coffin on the idea that it is the Democrats' job to reach across the aisle. They then explain why Republicans think it is okay to attack the faith--including the sermons--of Raphael Warnock, but would not allow one utterance of criticism related to Amy Coney Barrett's religious belief and practice. They finish by looking at stats that tell the real story of American Exceptionalism--the presence...
Sarah Posner on the Secession of MAGA Nation
Nov. 17, 2020

Sarah Posner on the Secession of MAGA Nation

Brad speaks with Sarah Posner, author of Unholy: Why White Evangelicals Worship at the Altar of Donald Trump. They discuss how Trump is the result of strategies used by GOP operatives in other countries. The approach is simple: label liberal democracy as an assault on family, faith, and nation; sell a strong, charismatic leader as the only hope to save the country from ruin at the hands of godless socialists; then systematically weaken all democratic guardrails in order to ensure the leader has ...
Weekly Roundup: Reviving the Lost Cause - the Real Meaning of Trump's Refusal to Concede + Biden's Religious Voters + SCOTUS and Obama Care
Nov. 13, 2020

Weekly Roundup: Reviving the Lost Cause - the Real Meaning of Trump's Refusal to Concede + Biden's Religious Voters + SCOTUS and Obama Care

Dan begins by explaining why Biden didn't underperform and why emotionally this should feel like a big winHe and Brad also discuss the White religious voters who fled Trump for Biden and why it is/and is not a big dealThey touch on SCOTUS and the Affordable Care Act, including the surprising comments from Justice KavanaughThe bulk of the episode is then spent on discussing the real meaning behind Trump's refusal to concede. Dan explains why a hard coup is not imminent; Brad sets what he ca...
The Brown Church: 500 Years of Resistance and Organizing - with Robert Chao Romero, PhD, JD
Nov. 10, 2020

The Brown Church: 500 Years of Resistance and Organizing - with Robert Chao Romero, PhD, JD

In his new book, The Brown Church, Robert Chao Romero speaks from spiritual borderlands. As a Latino pastor and scholar trained in critical race theory, he speaks to those managing what many times feel like mutually exclusive identities. In the process his book has something essential to teach all of us about the history of the Brown Church in North America and how Indigenous and Latina/o peoples have been fighting to decolonize faith, decenter Whiteness, and create more inclusive and equal communities for all. In the course of our conversation, we touch on liberation theology, ways faith communities have been practicing resistance for half a millennium, and the ongoing work to recognize the power and import of the Religious Left. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/straightwhiteamericanjesu/messageSupport this podcast: <a href="https://anchor.fm/straightwhiteamericanjesu/support" rel="payment">https://anchor.fm/straightwhiteamericanjesu/support</a>
Weekly Roundup: A Historic Election, the Religious Left's Huge Impact, and the Religious Right Remains the Religious White
Nov. 6, 2020

Weekly Roundup: A Historic Election, the Religious Left's Huge Impact, and the Religious Right Remains the Religious White

As we process the unfolding events related to the election, Brad and Dan discuss:why Tuesday night felt so dismaying, despite knowing it would be a long roadthe disappointing turnout for Trumpism and the need to reckon with Whitenessthe myriad of reasons to be not only relieved, but hopefulMadison Cawthorn = future of the Religious RightStacey Abrams, Raphael Warnock, Cori Bush, and the Squad = Vanguards of the Religious LeftWhy Christian nationalism is far from defeated---Send i...
Religion, Roots, and Black National Identity with Richard Newton
Nov. 2, 2020

Religion, Roots, and Black National Identity with Richard Newton

In an episode recorded as part of a public lecture at Skidmore College, Brad speak with Dr. Richard Newton about his new book, Identifying Roots: Alex Haley and the Anthropology of Scriptures. They discuss how Haley's book Roots and the ensuing TV mini-series marked a new chapter in telling the story of Black Americans, how Roots became the "Black family Bible," and what it means in regard to our current cultural moment. Professor Newton explains how the story has become a sacred narrative about American national identity and how its legacy reverberates in contemporary movements for racial justice. --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/straightwhiteamericanjesu/messageSupport this podcast: <a href="https://anchor.fm/straightwhiteamericanjesu/support" rel="payment">https://anchor.fm/straightwhiteamericanjesu/support</a>
Weekly Roundup: America's Tense Moment
Oct. 30, 2020

Weekly Roundup: America's Tense Moment

In the week before the election, Brad and Dan begin with another chapter of Falwell's Follies. Dan then explains why the polls are similar, but different from 2016 and how Trump's surrender to COVID has hurt his reelection chances. Brad expands on his explanation of why the Supreme Court should be expanded by providing numbers on how many unfit and inexperienced judges--including ACB--Trump and McConnell have pushed through, explaining how the Senate process has been tainted, and reminding every...
After Evangelcalism with David Gushee
Oct. 27, 2020

After Evangelcalism with David Gushee

Dan speaks with Dr. David Gushee, Professor of Ethics and Director of the Center for Theology and Public Life at Mercer University. The former president of the American Academy of Religion, he is a prolific author who writes often about his journey out of evangelicalism. He and Dan discuss his new book, After Evangelicalism: The Path to a New Christianity. Their discussion delves into issues such as community, race, and sexuality--and how White evangelicals are getting those tragically wrong. Gu...
Weekly Roundup: Hunter Biden Explained, Pope and Civil Unions, and the American Values Survey
Oct. 23, 2020

Weekly Roundup: Hunter Biden Explained, Pope and Civil Unions, and the American Values Survey

Opener: Brad and Dan each get 2 minutes uninterrupted on the last debateExplainer: Hunter Biden non-scandal mularkeyExplainer: Pope announces he is in favor of same-sex couples having civil unions (but not marriages?)Deep Dive: The American Values Survey from PRRI-critical issues for Republicans and Democrats (one thinks COVID is a big deal; the other doesn't)-how White Evangelicals are different from any other religious group in the country-attitudes toward race, income inequality, ...
81% WTF (Re-release): The Historical Receipts on Evangelical Leaders Hypocritical Support for Trump
Oct. 21, 2020

81% WTF (Re-release): The Historical Receipts on Evangelical Leaders Hypocritical Support for Trump

The episode that started it all! On one of our very first shows, we went to the historical record to quote all the evangelical leaders who did everything possible to decry Bill Clinton after his sex scandal/impeachment. They called for integrity, morality, and virtue in the White House. They feared for a country without a godly leader. Those same leaders are remain Trump's most vocal supporters. Weeks before the election, a great episode to remind us of where we have been and what's at stake.-...
Weekly Roundup: Constitutional Originalism and Biblical Literalism
Oct. 16, 2020

Weekly Roundup: Constitutional Originalism and Biblical Literalism

Dan briefs us on the dueling presidential town halls before he and Brad explain the tenets of Constitutional Originalism, a legal philosophy Amy Coney Barrett claims to hold. They compare it to a separate, but related issue--biblical literalism. In both cases, conservative actors claim to hold the "original" meaning of the text in order to combat social and cultural progress. But, as Dan and Brad explain, a century of philosophy and hermeneutics has shown both to be untenable. From there they di...
Sarah Levin, Co-Chair of the DNC Interfaith Council and Founder of Secular Strategies
Oct. 13, 2020

Sarah Levin, Co-Chair of the DNC Interfaith Council and Founder of Secular Strategies

Brad speaks with Sarah Levin, the Co-Chair of the DNC's Interfaith Committee and the Founder of Secular Strategies, a firm dedicated to mobilizing secular voters. They discuss the values that matter to non-religious voters and how they can be mobilized politically. Perhaps most importantly, they dig into the possibilities for including secular people in interfaith dialogue at the political level. Sarah articulates her commitment to working with, rather than against religious voters who want to c...
Weekly Roundup: Pretty Fly for a White Guy
Oct. 9, 2020

Weekly Roundup: Pretty Fly for a White Guy

Some major announcements! We are now a proud partner of the Capps Center at UCSB! Capps is dedicated to ethics, religion, and public life in a way that matches up seamlessly with our approach on SWAJ. Check out their new series on indigenous religions!We begin this episode by discussing the VP debate, particularly Mike Pence as a familiar type: The White Evangelical pastor.We then discuss a cluster of issues surrounding science and COVID--Trump's use of medicines that made from aborted fetuse...
Trump's COVID Diagnosis, the ACB "Celebration of Life," and White Evangelical Racism with Prof. Anthea Butler
Oct. 5, 2020

Trump's COVID Diagnosis, the ACB "Celebration of Life," and White Evangelical Racism with Prof. Anthea Butler

Brad speaks to Professor Anthea Butler, a captain in the Biden campaign's "Catholics for Biden" initiative, and chair of the Religious Studies department at the University of Pennsylvania. They discuss the details of Trump's COVID diagnosis and how his recklessness is fueled by four things:Prosperity Gospel positive thinking,racism,capitalism,hypermasculinity.These themes ground a conversation that ranges from Trump's lack of empathy for Americans, especially BIPOC, who have contracted...