Episodes

We live in a time that is very polarized and differing opinions seem to be suspect. We need to figure out a way forward, but it seems hard to do if we can't even have a conversation, and we debate only happens from behind computer screens. There are people trying to create spaces where differing opinions are not only welcome, but encouraged, and met with curiosity. Pete Enns and Jared Byas are two of these wonderful humans. They are hosts of the podcast “The Bible for Normal People.” Pete a pro...

Friends, you may already know the work of this week's "Making Spaces Podcast" guest Morgan Harper Nichols. Her well known instagram poetry/visual art is signed with the simple letters MHN. Morgan is an incredibly talented creative. She is a poet, a musician, and a visual artist. Each piece is based on the personal stories her followers send her and offers a sense of hope and solidarity. Our conversation centers around making space while letting go of our fear of critics or comparison. Morgan is...

Friends Episode 13 is a special episode about making space to engage the topic of racial reconciliation. Episode 14 will be released on the usual day (Tuesday) with artist Morgan Harper Nichols. For this episode I am grateful to Pastor Lamont Hartman for being willing to record a quick conversation. He offered some helpful practices, and things to take into consideration, when confronting injustice. Lamont is a seasoned pastor and non-profit developer. He has spent years working around racial ...

You asked so here is the answer.... What's the deal with wheels on your pews? How does that make space for people? How on Earth did you convince people that this was the way forward? This is a practical episode about what it means to move from "Do It Yourself" to "Do It Together." This is our first "Makers Episode," and it was a little tricky to make, but I am so glad we did. All of these images and accompanying video will be available on Sarah's Youtube channel available here. I am excited to ...

I am delighted to share this week’s Making Spaces conversation with Mike McHargue (a.k.a Science Mike.) Mike is one of my best friends, and I always walk away from our conversations feeling grateful for time spent in deep conversation punctuated by a lot of laughter, and this conversation is no different. Mike is a public educator trusted by millions to use empathy and deep scientific insights to help us navigate some of the most difficult parts of the human experience. Through his podcast “Ask...

What do jazz, craft beer, life on the autism spectrum, and an old auto shop in Texas have to do with making space? Turns out everything! I am excited to share my conversation with my friend Christian Piatt. Christian is an author, podcast editor, and the owner, designer and founder of Brew Drinkery in Granbury TX. The Brew Drinkery is a craft beer/community venue that weaves together old and new design elements, all while making space for the avid craft brew enthusiast, and those who have neve...

Friends I am so excited to share with you my conversation with my friend Jen Hatmaker. If you don’t know Jen’s work- she is a speaker, hosts a really great podcast "For the love," runs an online book club, and has written some fantastic books including her newly released "Fierce, Free and full of fire" (I haven't been able to put it down!) Jen knows a thing or two about making space for people. As Jen began speaking publicly about making space for diversity and LGBTQIA inclusion experienced a f...

A lot of us can relate to a heightened feeling of stress, and general anxiety during this Covid 19 crisis, but for those who already experiencing mental health issues this time may only exacerbated already difficult symptoms. As a culture we have a lot to learn about making spaces for people experiencing mental health difficulties- I hope that this episode with my good friend Rev. Robert W. Lee will inspire great conversation and thought around, how do we make space for ourselves during this dif...

Who transforms a 1953 trailer into a therapist office and podcast studio?? The one and only Elyse Snipes. ⁠ This week I am excited to share with you my conversation with Elyse Snipes creator of Radical Wellness Collective. This conversation was so helpful! As an Enneagram four, this lady leads with creativity and authenticity that is nothing short of inspirational. Elyse is bringing a lot of goodness into the world- she is a licensed marriage and family therapist, hosts a podcast called "Traile...

This week I am excited to share with you my conversation with Jessie McLaughlin the creator and designer behind Jessie Lane Interiors in LA. Her work includes bold colors and original multipurpose furniture. Jessie and I talk about how dental office design was influential in her life, why we sometimes second guess our own intuition, and we offer some helpful tips for maintaining sanity during this time of sheltering in place. We also talk about how I missed my true calling designing the interior...

This week I got to chat with the amazing Joanna Waterfall. Joanna is the Founder of Yellow Co, an organization birthed from an idea that struck her one day while she was in the shower. With a degree in graphic design and digital media and a background in branding, she believes that creativity, business, community and social impact should all go hand in hand. She and her work have been featured in publications such as Forbes, The Huffington Post, Darling Magazine, The Good Trade, LA Lady Magazine...

This episode was recorded before we were asked to shelter in place, but I think it has some great things for us to think about as we create space for others, or look for spaces to invest in. I am excited for you to hear my conversation with Candice Czubernat, LMHC, MFT an incredible therapist and the founder of the online therapy platform “the Christian closet.” Our conversation goes everywhere from how to be a good ally, to why it's important to be curious about other people. To Learn more abo...

I am so excited to introduce to you Riley Hall a dear friend of mine, and an incredible designer. Riley "creates space" as a designer in the staging industry. He knows what it takes to make a space seem intentionally styled, but approachable. Our conversation went everywhere from how to lay out a room, to why everyone should have a signature candle. This show will first air while we are all still experiencing social distancing and sheltering in place during the covid-19 outbreak, and so it may ...

Nothing like launching a podcast about the need for proximity while a pandemic is causing us to have to have to distance ourselves, but during this time there are unique ways to continue to “make space” for connection and community that could last longer than the outbreak itself. This week I talk to Rev. Jeremy Smith. Jeremy is a pastor of a church in Seattle near one of the areas that the CDC has deemed a "hot spot." He and his team had to figure out how to cultivate community during "social d...

Kevin Garcia is a spiritual director, intuitive soul coach, writer, speaker, and my dear friend. We talk about why cleaning out closets is so much more than just organizing, why being hospitable is more than just what can be seen, and why labels are actually important. Out of site and out of mind is not a real thing. Disclaimer *I believe in authenticity, so I don’t sugar coat thoughts or language, but we bleep out the big cusses (I also think bleeping is funny.) To find out more about Kevin an...

No church storage closet is left unturned as we restore, renew, and reconcile. We're talking Queer Eye meets Marie Kondo meets the Vicar of Dibley. (If Chip and Jo want to come too, I won't object.) We live in a social and political climate that thrives on making us more and more divided. We need proximity and relationships to break down this division, but our most inclusive spaces are often run down and uninviting.... and if we are honest smell a bit like a nursing home. This podcast will dis...