9. The one where Sarah talks to Jen Hatmaker about making space for our true selves.

Friends I am so excited to share with you my conversation with my friend Jen Hatmaker. If you don’t know Jen’s work- she is a speaker, hosts a really great podcast "For the love," runs an online book club, and has written some fantastic books including her newly released "Fierce, Free and full of fire" (I haven't been able to put it down!)

Jen knows a thing or two about making space for people. As Jen began speaking publicly about making space for diversity and LGBTQIA inclusion experienced a fall out with her evangelical roots that included her books being removed from Christian books store shelves. Our conversation covers the importance of making space for our true selves, so that all of our work is authentic and deeply rooted. She is such a delight, and I think you will find encouragement, and a huge challenge to move beyond the superficial versions of ourselves. 

Find out more about Jen here: https://jenhatmaker.com/

For more enneagram information check out these great books

The Road Back to You: An Enneagram Journey to Self-Discovery- Ian Morgan Cron and Suzanne Stabile 

The Enneagram: A Christian Perspective- Richard Rohr and Andreas Ebert 

The Brain-Based Enneagram- You are not a number- Dr. Jerome D. Lubbe

Introduction Music “it can be done” by Airae via epidemic sound.

Editing by Steven Burnette from The Cult Popcast

Attention to detail by my resident enneagram 1- the amazing Katie Richardson

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