Episodes

Episode 38: Too Real for Church with Heather Sanford

Dec. 7, 2022

This week we welcome our good friend Heather Sanford to the REVcovery Room! In addition to being a delightful individual Heather served for many years in youth ministry and then on an executive leadership team and she has mo…

Episode 38: The best is yet to come with Matt Kendziera

Nov. 29, 2022

This week we welcome Matt Kendziera to the REVcovery Room! In addition to being a former pastor Matt is also an author, musician, speaker and all around renaissance man whose book "Bring it Home: The Adventure of Finding You…

Episode 36: Does God play hard to get? a conversation with Dr. Sarah Lane Ritchie

Nov. 23, 2022

This week we are happy to present one of the interviews Sarah did at Theology Beer Camp with the incredible Dr. Sarah Lane Ritchie. It is a wide ranging conversation but it centers on the hiddenness of God and what we do wit…

Episode 35: You found a new job; now what?

Nov. 8, 2022

Hey friends this week is a simple episode where Justin and Sarah share a bit about what life is like after you have fully made the transition out of ministry (or whatever you did). How do you set expectations, manage boundar…

Episode 34: A New Brew with Josh Patterson

Nov. 1, 2022

This week we welcome Josh Patterson, former pastor and now brewer at Full Tilt Brewery, to the show! Josh has an amazing story of coming to terms with the information his body was telling to him about his time in ministry an…

Episode 33: Cameron Bishop gets his voice back

Oct. 25, 2022

This week we sit down with Cameron Bishop, Executive Director of Impact Lives, an organization that uses cognitive science to change the lives of clients ranging from school kids to professional athletes. Cameron is a former…

Episode 32: The Fluid Spirituality of Derek Myers

Oct. 20, 2022

This week we interview Derek Myers, better known on the internet as "Derek the Heretic." Derek is also one half of "Your Favorite Heretics" so combined with Justin and Sarah you need to brace yourselves for a whole lot of he…

Episode 31: Jeff Elkins Saves Himself

Oct. 4, 2022

This week we are delighted to introduce you to our new friend, former minister, and current member of the REVcovery Community, Jeff Elkins! This episode really is a full circle moment for us because neither Justin or Sarah k…

Episode 30: Every Person Living Under Capitalism's Battle

Sept. 27, 2022

Hey friends we are back with a Justin and Sarah episode wherein we discuss the ups and downs of living with religious and societal expectations that simply aren't good for humans. We also talk about things that help us, how …

Episode 29: Burnout and Influencer Culture: An Exvangelical Crossover Episode with Blake Chastain

Sept. 23, 2022

Hey friends we have a bit of a different episode today; we are doing a crossover podcast with Blake Chastain of Exvangelical! In this episode we talk a bit about burnout in the ministry and in influencer culture as well as s…

Episode 28: Seeing clearly with Bradley Onishi

Sept. 13, 2022

Friends we are so very excited to welcome Bradely Onishi to the REVcovery Room! Bradley is a former pastor, the co-host of the "Straight White American Jesus" podcast and author of the upcoming book "Preparing for War: The E…

Episode 27: Taking the slow train to heck with Josiah Mahon

Sept. 6, 2022

This week we interview Josiah Mahon host of the "Slow Train to Heck" podcast! Josiah faced a choice that many of us in REVcovery have had to face; do I tell the truth or do I stay silent? He chose the former and as many of u…

Episode 26: You have what it takes with Kevin Wright

Aug. 30, 2022

This week we are very excited to welcome Kevin Wright to the REVcovery Room. Like most of our guests Kevin is a former minister but in many ways he represents one of the best outcomes of the REVcovery journey. Leaving your "…

Episode 25: Flipping Tables with The Naked Pastor David Hayward

Aug. 23, 2022

This week we welcome to the REVcovery Room the Naked Pastor himself, David Hayward. If you have ever asked questions about your faith and been on the internet you have probably run into one of David's cartoons. They speak so…

Episode 24: Live at Wild Goose with Anna Galloday

Aug. 16, 2022

We had the privilege of interviewing one of our favorite people, Anna Galloday, at Wild Goose and we can't wait to share her story with you. Anna was faced with some very difficult decisions and while they ultimately resulte…

Episode 23: Pay Janice Lagata

Aug. 9, 2022

Friends we are so delighted to introduce you to our friend Janice Lagata! Her career has included many things from managing the stage for Hillsong New York to writing uncredited jokes for her senior pastor's sermons. It was …

Episode 22: F*ck I'm Still a Preacher

Aug. 2, 2022

Hey everybody we are back with some thoughts about our time at Wild Goose, how we are choosing our faith rather than having it handed to us, and the surprising ways we are finding that ministry (whatever that is) still matte…

Episode 21: Do I stay Christian? A conversation with Brian McLaren.

July 26, 2022

Friends we are back with Season 2 of the REVcovery Podcast! We are so excited for what the next season holds and this episode is the perfect kickoff. Our guest today is Brian Mclaren. In addition to being a former pastor Bri…

Episode 20: Season Finale: Making Peace With Who You Were

June 7, 2022

Friends we are wrapping up the first season of REVcovery and it has been such a wonderful time. Don't worry we will be back in a few weeks for the start of season two and it's going to be fantastic. For this episode Sarah an…

Episode 19: Fun with Resumes!

May 31, 2022

Hey friends this week we are taking a bit of a break from the heavier side of career transitions and focusing on the practical aspects of how to rethink your resume. Ministry resumes and corporate resumes are not the same an…

Episode 18: Grief and Grace with Jenny Smith

May 24, 2022

This week we welcome Jenny Smith to the podcast and it is a truly beautiful and life-giving conversation. Burnout in ministry is a real thing and it takes courage to admit when you aren't able to go on anymore; even more to …

Episode 17: What You Gain When You Leave

May 17, 2022

We talk alot about how challenging it is to leave ministry or experience a shift in our faith. It is difficult to navigate, for sure, but what we often don't get to talk about is what you gain when you step out into the unkn…

Episode 16: Kevin Sweeney the Mushroom Mystic

May 10, 2022

This week we are exited to welcome Kevin Sweeney to the REVcovery Room! Kevin is currently the lead pastor of Imagine Church in Hawaii but is in the process of closing that ministry down to choose the next thing ahead of him…

Episode 17: Relationships after Ministry

May 3, 2022

This week Sarah and Justin talk about the experience of transitioning your relationships from the often one sided pastor to parishioner to the more mutual friend to friend. Many relationships can't make the switch which can …