Episodes

Sarah and Justin Tackle Hallmark Holiday Homilies
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May 17, 2023

Sarah and Justin Tackle Hallmark Holiday Homilies

Hey friends this week is another low key episode wherein Justin and Sarah talk a bit about Mother's Day, family, and how we celebrate each other as we deconstruct our ministry and faith. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! Let us know on Discord what has helped you. You can join here: Patreon.com/ revcovery This podcast is edited by Elizabeth Nordenholt from Podcat Audio: https://elizabethnordenholt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
What's helped with Sarah and Justin
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May 3, 2023

What's helped with Sarah and Justin

Hey friends this week is a low key episode wherein Justin and Sarah talk a bit about things that have helped them get through revcovery and deconstruction. Hopefully some of these resources will help you too. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! Let us know on Discord what has helped you. You can join here: Patreon.com/gohomebible This podcast is edited by Elizabeth Nordenholt from Podcat Audio: https://elizabethnordenholt.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Asian American Apostate with Scott Okamoto
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April 26, 2023

Asian American Apostate with Scott Okamoto

We have the honor to welcome the one and only Scott Okamoto to the podcast today! Justin got to hang out with Scott for his book launch in Los Angeles and it was so good we felt like we had to have him on the show. As an Asian American college professor at a conservative university his revcovery looks different than many of our listeners but its themes of care for the other above dogmas and prioritizing curiosity over conservatism will feel very familiar. Welcome Scott to the REVcovery Room! You...
Stories from the REVcovery Room with Elizabeth Mora
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April 20, 2023

Stories from the REVcovery Room with Elizabeth Mora

This is another in our ongoing series highlighting the stories of our Patrons on Discord. This week Elizabeth Mora shares her unique story of ministry in an openly progressive denomination and how the grass isn't always greener on the other side. We all have our own individual starting points but we are all in this together. Welcome to the REVcovery Room. We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/REVcovery This podcast is edited by Elizabeth Nordenholt from Podcat...
Episode 50: Growth, Easter, and changing perspectives with Justin and Sarah
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April 4, 2023

Episode 50: Growth, Easter, and changing perspectives with Justin and Sarah

This week Justin and Sarah reflect on another Easter outside of the pulpit and in the wilds beyond the stained glass windows. We can't go back to who we were as clergy but we still carry that sense of calling to name the truth and "go first" regardless of where we are. Wherever you find yourself this Holy Week we hope you feel deeply at home and at rest. Welcome to the REVcovery Room. We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by El...
Episode 49: Stories from the REVcovery Room with Sara Relaford
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March 29, 2023

Episode 49: Stories from the REVcovery Room with Sara Relaford

This week we are happy to have a member of our Discord community share their experience of REVcovery. Rev Dr. Sara Relaford is a former UMC minister whose perspective on the journey into and out of ministry has been so valuable to our community. She and her husband were a clergy couple who deconstructed their views on ministry at roughly the same time while managing two church’s worth of expectations. So yeah, it was a lot but thankfully she has found a new vocation and voice and we are excited ...
Episode 48: Homebrewed Friendship with Dr. Tripp Fuller
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March 22, 2023

Episode 48: Homebrewed Friendship with Dr. Tripp Fuller

Folks we have a treat for you this week because Dr Tripp Fuller is with us to talk about community, the Church, and his love of Justin's sweatpants. It's a wide ranging conversation but stick around for the end as we talk about the good things we experienced in ministry and how we take those into the next thing. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery This podcast is edited by Elizabeth Nordenholt from Podcat Audio: https...
Episode 47: Making room for a different sort of faith with Tim Whitaker
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March 14, 2023

Episode 47: Making room for a different sort of faith with Tim Whitaker

This week on the pod we have Tim Whitaker, creator of The New Evangelicals , on the show. Tim was a super volunteer in churches and on worship teams and over time began to see that what was being practiced in churches was not lining up with what he had been taught his faith was all about. He started asking questions and that eventually led to his exit from volunteer life and into a new kind of community. Its a good one folks; welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patro...
Episode 46: Pursuing your Passions with Dr Dorrell Briscoe
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March 8, 2023

Episode 46: Pursuing your Passions with Dr Dorrell Briscoe

We have a great episode for you this week with Dr. Harold Dorrell Briscoe! Our guest is a renaissance man in many ways and uses all of his varied passions and interests to create community and connection wherever he goes. Dorrell is one of our few guests that has both deconstructed their faith and continues to serve in a local church and his story is one you will want to pay attention to. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! You can check out Dr. Dorrell's book here: https://amzn.to/3IVtZ7P We now hav...
Episode 45: Becoming with Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza
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March 1, 2023

Episode 45: Becoming with Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza

This week's episode is the last in our series of interviews at Theology Beer Camp. Today you will get to hear Justin interview Dr. Roberto Che Espinoza. We get a little into Dr. Roberto's journey as a nonbinary Transqueer Latinx person and how that shapes their work in politics, theology and ethics. It is a delightful and informative conversation that we are very excited to be able to share with you. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! This talk was a part of our experience at Homebrewed Christianity...
Episode 44: Good Grief with Psychotherapist Rebecca Ching
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Feb. 24, 2023

Episode 44: Good Grief with Psychotherapist Rebecca Ching

This week we discuss grief, transitions, and all the other things with Psychotherapist Rebecca Ching. Her story is filled with transitions and career changes into and out of ministry and the professional world. She is a phenomenal guest and more than a few of you will resonate with her journey into and out of this thing we are all trying to REVcover from. Sit back, get cozy, and welcome to the REVcovery Room! We now have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery Thi...
Episode 43: Risking the Jump with Cathleen Falsani
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Feb. 15, 2023

Episode 43: Risking the Jump with Cathleen Falsani

Folks you are in for a great conversation because this week we have Author and Agent Cathleen Falsani on the show. As a former religion reporter for the Chicago Sun Times Cathleen has seen many of the shifts that drive this revcovery journey that we are all on and offers excellent insight in how to both survive and thrive in this ever changing landscape we find ourselves in. It's a true delight that we can't wait to share with you. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! You can check out all that Cathle...
Episode 42: Getting SoulFULL with Coach Chris Rodriguez
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Feb. 7, 2023

Episode 42: Getting SoulFULL with Coach Chris Rodriguez

Hey friends we are delighted to introduce you to Coach Chris Rodriguez ( website here )! He has an amazing story and message that will resonate with any of you that find yourselves in a human body. This conversation ranges from feeling tension in the church as a person of color, how to identify what you really want, and also how being in a body is a good thing. You are going to love it. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! We have a Discord now for our Patrons! You can join here: Patreon.com/revcovery...
Episode 41: 2023 and Me
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Feb. 1, 2023

Episode 41: 2023 and Me

Welcome friends and happy belated new year! We are so excited to start this new season of REVcovery with you. This week Justin and Sarah talk a bit about new years and renegotiating our relationship to self-discipline, goals, and our expectations. We hope it is a conversation that you find helpful and encouraging as you look ahead to what this year holds for you. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Episode 40: What in the Holly Jolly do you do with Christmas?
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Dec. 21, 2022

Episode 40: What in the Holly Jolly do you do with Christmas?

Folks we made it! Episode 40 and the end of our first year of REVcovery. Sarah and Justin are so grateful for the many delightful twists and turns this first year has had and can't wait to see what happens in 2023. In this episode we reflect on the last year and also talk about how our relationship to the mega holiday that is Christmas and New Years has changed since we have left ministry. We absolutely love sharing all this with you and hope you have a meaningful holiday season however that unf...
Episode 39: Navigating church in a female body, a discussion with Dr Jennifer Bashaw
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Dec. 14, 2022

Episode 39: Navigating church in a female body, a discussion with Dr Jennifer Bashaw

We are happy this week to welcome Dr Jennifer Bashaw to the REVcovery Room! Sarah and Justin had an opportunity to sit down with Dr Bashaw at Theology Beer Camp to discuss her time in ministry, journey into academia, and how being in a female body impacted that journey. It is a fantastic conversation that we are so delighted to share with you and hope it gives some perspective on how theology shapes how we view God, our bodies, and what spaces we are allowed to be in. Enjoy! This talk was a part...
Episode 38: Too Real for Church with Heather Sanford
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Dec. 7, 2022

Episode 38: Too Real for Church with Heather Sanford

This week we welcome our good friend Heather Sanford to the REVcovery Room! In addition to being a delightful individual Heather served for many years in youth ministry and then on an executive leadership team and she has more than a few words to say about it. Her story pulls on themes of honesty, vulnerability and how those things are not always welcome in the church. It's a real treat to talk to her and we are glad to be able to share this conversation with you. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! ...
Episode 38: The best is yet to come with Matt Kendziera
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Nov. 29, 2022

Episode 38: The best is yet to come with Matt Kendziera

This week we welcome Matt Kendziera to the REVcovery Room! In addition to being a former pastor Matt is also an author, musician, speaker and all around renaissance man whose book "Bring it Home: The Adventure of Finding Yourself after Being Lost in Religion" highlights the journey many of us in revcovery are on. It's a great conversation that really hits on what it means to not just survive leaving ministry but to build a life you look forward to living. If you would like to learn more about Ma...
Episode 36: Does God play hard to get? a conversation with Dr. Sarah Lane Ritchie
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Nov. 23, 2022

Episode 36: Does God play hard to get? a conversation with Dr. Sarah Lane Ritchie

This week we are happy to present one of the interviews Sarah did at Theology Beer Camp with the incredible Dr. Sarah Lane Ritchie. It is a wide ranging conversation but it centers on the hiddenness of God and what we do with that mystery. For many of us in REVcovery that question drove us out of the church altogether and this conversation helps us to see that maybe there is more behind the curtain. It's a great one folks, welcome to the REVcovery Room! This talk was a part of our experience at ...
Episode 35: You found a new job; now what?
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Nov. 8, 2022

Episode 35: You found a new job; now what?

Hey friends this week is a simple episode where Justin and Sarah share a bit about what life is like after you have fully made the transition out of ministry (or whatever you did). How do you set expectations, manage boundaries, and simply live life after a calling? We don't know the answer for everyone but we are happy to share what is working for us and hope you find some good in it. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! If you would like to join a community of like minded people check out our Patreo...
Episode 34: A New Brew with Josh Patterson
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Nov. 1, 2022

Episode 34: A New Brew with Josh Patterson

This week we welcome Josh Patterson, former pastor and now brewer at Full Tilt Brewery, to the show! Josh has an amazing story of coming to terms with the information his body was telling to him about his time in ministry and bravely allowing himself to trust that he knew the right moves to make. He is a real delight both in person and in recording and we are excited to share this conversation with you. Grab your favorite beverage and welcome to the REVcovery Room! If you would like to join a co...
Episode 33: Cameron Bishop gets his voice back
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Oct. 25, 2022

Episode 33: Cameron Bishop gets his voice back

This week we sit down with Cameron Bishop, Executive Director of Impact Lives, an organization that uses cognitive science to change the lives of clients ranging from school kids to professional athletes. Cameron is a former minister whose incredible story touches on the feelings of growing up out of place and what we do as ministers to our internal voice in order to "serve" the church. We hope that this conversation gives you hope that there is a good life beyond the stained glass windows and t...
Episode 32: The Fluid Spirituality of Derek Myers
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Oct. 20, 2022

Episode 32: The Fluid Spirituality of Derek Myers

This week we interview Derek Myers, better known on the internet as "Derek the Heretic." Derek is also one half of "Your Favorite Heretics" so combined with Justin and Sarah you need to brace yourselves for a whole lot of heresy. But seriously, Derek is one of the most kind people we have had on the show and their journey of healing is one we are very happy to share with you. Welcome to the REVcovery Room! If you would like to join a community of like minded people check out our Patreon: patreon...
Episode 31: Jeff Elkins Saves Himself
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Oct. 4, 2022

Episode 31: Jeff Elkins Saves Himself

This week we are delighted to introduce you to our new friend, former minister, and current member of the REVcovery Community, Jeff Elkins! This episode really is a full circle moment for us because neither Justin or Sarah knew Jeff before this podcast got started. Jeff is an active member of our REVcovery Discord Community and after learning more about his story and seeing how much of the work he has already done we know we had to have him on the show. This episode is a special one folks so sit...